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Architectural Series Overwall Slider

By Robert Campion

Published May 27, 2010

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Rob has spent 24 years in the aluminium joinery industry as a fabricator and project manager, with considerable experience in a range of commercial and technical roles. Read all posts by Rob or subscribe by Email.

The APL Architectural Series Overwall Slider is an effective method of achieving a clear opening.

Single Panel Overwall Slider

Single Panel Overwall Slider

The single track frame is designed specifically for the overwall application but multiple panel configurations can also be achieved with the two, three and four track frames. As with typical Architectural Series sliders, the panel weight must be considered for large double glazed, multi-panel configurations.

As the unit is situated outside the cladding line the unit setout is dictated by the panel clearance over the cladding. This will determine the type of sill support required, which is typically a continuous steel angle.

The weathering line is formed at the interlocker junction with the wall framing which means that only the lock jamb frame is required, allowing the wall cladding to continue uninterrupted around the head (and sill) frame. Stops are installed within the head/sill frames to control the panel travel. Flashing of the unit is critical to the weathering of the building envelope and must be considered on a project specific basis. Some typical details have been included below.

The product has an option to install the Icon recessed pull handle, which allows the panels to slide back flush with the interlocker jamb in the open position, providing the maximum opening width.

elevation

Elevation

Section at Wall

Section at Wall

Section at Opening

Section at Opening

Horizontal Section

Horizontal Section

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22 Responses

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    Hi. I am using the architectural series for some internal doors and partitions in a commercial refurb and was wondering how much (if any) sound insulation can be achieved with these overwall sliders?

    Cheers.

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    Rob Campion:

    The interior application typically does not require the sill frame and has a track applied only. As a continuous seal to the panel is required for sound insulation there are options to achieve this depending on the floor finishes and aesthetic required ie the head/jamb channel can be applied to sill. The glass selection is critical to the acoustic performance and the Metro Glasstech catalogue performance section will allow you to make the correct selection.

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    I love these sliders – simple to install and give you large clear openings without any visible mullions. I recently had a builder tell me that his APL window supplier can’t do anything like that – I pointed him to the overwall slider you could see out my office window and advised him that maybe they need to look at their manual a little closer.

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    Hi Robert,

    Interested in the retrofit double glazing offers out there in the market.. can you offer suggestions / advice around various offers and solutions.

    Thanks
    Nick

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    Rob Campion:

    Hi Nick, Its probably best to discuss this on the phone. Please call on the DDI number at the bottom of the post.

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    I understand, the overwall slider shown in drawing is a sliding window. What kind of lock do you use for these overwall sliding windows?

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    Rob Campion:

    The product shown has the large rails which is typical for the sliding door whereas the sliding window would have small rails. The lock stile for the door and window is the same and typically a 35mm backset hook beak lock is applied. As the sliding window is not normally operated from the outside a half cylinder and internal handle only is required. There are also surface mounted lock options available.

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    Hi Rob,

    almost just what i’m looking for.

    Does the same idea apply for when a pocket is created for the sliders to hide away into? i.e wall mounted track rather than soffit for the extension where there is no glass. then just creating a “false wall” on the exterior face. This in a 4 track situation with 7 sliding panels, may be easist to talk on the phone, let me know and i’ll call.

    cheers

    Tim

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    Rob Campion:

    Hi Tim,

    There is definitely similar detailing and this configuration does require further discussion. Please call though on the DDI number at the bottom of my post.

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    I am looking at using this type of slider for our new house build. Could you provide me a quote for a 3000mm wide by 2100 high slider.

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    Rob Campion:

    Hi Shirley,

    All pricing is made through our fabricator network as listed on our brand websites:
    http://www.vantage.co.nz
    http://www.firstwindows.co.nz
    http://www.altherm.co.nz

    Please contact a local fabricator who will be able to provide the pricing.

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    We are currently designing a low cost bach in NewZealand and wish to know if any aluminium suppliers in NewZealand offer lower cost ‘off the shelf’ door and window glazed units. We would be interetsed if this is an option what the approximate cost % difference would be between this and custom sized and fabricated units for equivilant specification.

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    Rob Campion:

    Hi Katherine,
    New aluminium joinery is made to measure and cost is determined by the correct product selection for the application with a guiding consideration being the door heights.
    Typical limitations of the APL product range are as follows;
    Residential Series – 2.2m door height
    Metro Series – 2.4m door height
    Architectural Series – 2.7m door height
    APL provide pre-tender advice and detailing support that can be initiated through the contact details on this post.

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    Please, advise what window hardware to use for a top hung window 2500H x 950W, 8mm glass in a 24 story apartment building in Jakarta,Indonesia. Wind pressures unknown, but it’s inland, not located at a beach front.
    Would a 36″ friction stay with Restrictors and a 2-point Locking Fastener suffice?
    Thank you.

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    Rob Campion:

    Hi George,
    I’d suggest contacting a window systems supplier closer to Jakarta for advice on this project.

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    George Ganish:

    Unfortunately, local window joineries in this case relies on me as just an architectural hardware supplier. There was an Interlock 900 HD6 friction stay and combined with a Restrictor just might do the job, but that has been made obsolete now. So, I have looked for other friction stays other than Interlock and come up with a China made Heavy Duty 6 Bar 36″ SS304 friciton stay that they claim can support the large window. Of course, I still will combine it with a Restrictor and a 2-point locking fastener to lock it.
    Appreciate your comments, please?

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    This is exactly the type of concept we are looking at for opening up the back or our place.
    We are looking at approx 9m wall of which approx 7-8m opening.
    We wanted to go for 3 panels and were looking at what options we had in terms of surface mounted or cavity sliders but wasn’t sure we could do cavity slider type configuration on an exterior wall.
    Where can I get more info on this?

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    Rob Campion:

    Hi Fiona

    The links below will provide typical details for the Architectural Series two track slider into a cavity which will provide some guidance. Specific setout details for the three track slider can be provided by emailing your request to apl.techinfo@aplnz.co.nz or call on 07 8498888

    http://www.eboss.co.nz/manuals/vantage/index.php?viewpage=36800&act=view
    http://www.eboss.co.nz/manuals/vantage/index.php?viewpage=36800&act=next

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    Hi Rob,

    Do you know of any thermally insulated aluminium profiles that can do this?

    Cheers, Marco

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    I’m not sure, if it’s proper for me to still expect further responses on my earlier comments dd.June 15. But honestly, as not just a supplier, but also offering consultation to architects, building specifiers and contractors on door & window hardware, I really do.

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    This looks like it could make a great side opening garage door ,when fitted with a DC auto opener. with the stacker panels allowing full opening height.

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    Thanks for the info. Have not seen these type of doors/ windows before, so good to know what out there

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